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[讨论]需要什么样的WMS系统?

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发表于 2004-12-21 10:46 | 只看该作者

呵呵,好问题。

如果是一般的生产企业:
   1,仓库比较大,但是产品比较单一。
   2,或者仓库比较小,产品比较复杂,我想都可以用Excel解决。
   一般的物流公司(第三方)
   很多订单量也不是很大,用Excel解决我想也不会有什么问题。
   对于那种大型的配送中心,用Excel解决问题,我想是不太现实。但是其实也不是没有方法,至少我现在认为不是不可能,就看你投入多少精力,不过我想费用应该不会超过100万(包括Excel,Excel上面的开发和设备)
   我目前还很难发现有那家国内做WMS的功能比Excel强的。国内对仓库软件的要求,80%以上都不是很复杂,用Excel解决应该都没有问题。

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发表于 2004-12-21 11:06 | 只看该作者
这要看你对仓库管理到什么程度?如果仅仅只是简单的管理库存,那excel应该够了

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发表于 2004-12-24 19:07 | 只看该作者
同意,我用过一套新加坡的软件,着实的郁闷,呵呵,想要的没有,不想要的一大堆。有点不符合中国国情吧~!

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发表于 2004-12-28 23:01 | 只看该作者
前两天看了TEC上的一篇文章“Do Chinese Enterprises Really Need MES and WMS? ”
http://www.technology-evaluation ... _XNN_12_21_04_1.asp


Introduction

Manufacturing execution systems (MES) and warehouse management systems (WMS) have been around since the 1980s. Today, despite rapid growth of the industrial sector in China as well as other Asian, Latin American, and Eastern European countries in recent years, the vast majority of MES and WMS installations are found in North America, Western Europe and Japan. Is this because enterprises in China and other developing countries don抰 really need software like this? Or, looking ahead, can we expect demand for MES and WMS software to boom in the developing world?

Through the Past, Briefly

Paradoxically, the origins of MES and WMS coincide with the rise of Asian competition in the early 1980s. 揗ade in Japan,?once a euphemism for cheap and shoddy merchandise, became a tagline for superior and affordable quality as enterprises such as Toyota, Sony, and Honda took up total quality management (TQM), just-in-time (JIT), and flexible manufacturing techniques that dramatically cut inventories, cycle times and costs while achieving near-perfect quality and delivery performance.

Western manufacturers had to adapt fast in order to survive, but they ran into obstacles梡owerful labor unions, work rules, minimum wage laws and workweek restrictions ?that made it all but impossible to re-deploy their labor resources efficiently in the Japanese way. Indeed, unionization and labor policy were the root causes of wage and price hyperinflation during the 1970s that undercut Western competitiveness in the first place. So, to bring factor costs under control and re-tool their operations for higher productivity and quality, Western manufacturers made plant and warehouse automation their top priority. Unlike labor costs, capital spending on automation technology could at least be written off in declining real amounts as inflation cut the purchasing power of the original investment.

This strategic shift paid off by doubling the velocity of manufacture over the next twenty years. In the United States, for example, the number of manufacturing establishments was about the same in 2001 as it was twenty years earlier, but these establishments shed one-sixth of their production workers and nearly as many supervisory employees. Meanwhile, manufacturing value-add per production worker grew more than twofold, from $81,000 to $165,000 (USD and in constant 2002 dollars), and total manufacturing value-add grew by almost 70% to $1.9 trillion per year (USD).

Improving the velocity of manufacture through automation, while simultaneously reducing the number of employees who oversee manufacturing and warehousing operations, creates the risk of communication breakdowns between enterprise-level back-office applications on the one hand, and floor-level equipment controllers on the other. Conventional MES and WMS applications bridge these communication gaps that might otherwise limit the benefits of automation. They connect to programmable logic controllers (PLC) and materials handling equipment on the plant and warehouse floor to give supervisors immediate visibility and control of events. Simultaneously, they receive orders from back office applications and send transaction details back as tasks get done. To improve decision speed and accuracy, boost administrative productivity, and keep operations running smoothly, MES and WMS systems provide tools for detail scheduling, labor management, resource allocation, dispatching, navigation, process management, quality control, maintenance, approvals, record keeping and performance measurement that was formerly done on paper and in people抯 heads梠r not at all.

The Situation in China

Starting from virtually nowhere in the early 1980s, Chinese manufacturing value-add grew phenomenally to $0.7 trillion (USD) per year in 2001 measured by purchasing power parity梟early 40% of the United States total梐nd continues to expand at a 26% compound annual rate. But Chinese industry is far more labor-intensive than in the West. In 2001, the average Chinese manufacturing enterprise had 331 employees versus 46 per establishment in the United States. Chinese wages and manufacturing value-add per employee were one-tenth of the American levels.

Nonetheless, the velocity of manufacture is definitely accelerating in China. Since 2001, employment at Chinese manufacturing enterprises has grown only 2% per year while manufacturing value-add per employee has grown at a 24% annual rate. In short, although manufacturing employment continues to expand, productivity improvement now accounts for well over 90% of the growth in China抯 industrial sector.

Why do Chinese manufacturers, with a seemingly endless supply of cheap labor at hand, see productivity enhancement as the key to profitable growth? Consider the following trends now affecting Chinese industry:

Chinese state-owned enterprises and collectives are reforming themselves into industrial powerhouses. The days of government subsidies and quota-driven mass production of inferior goods are over. Inefficient state-owned enterprises and collectives are under pressure to adapt, or die. In response, most are abandoning mass production of standard (or substandard) products, implementing TQM to improve quality, laying off older workers with poor skills, and closing down their least-efficient operations to become profitable.


Costs of imported material are rising, and spot shortages are developing. China is now one of the world抯 largest importers of industrial commodities, from oil to steel and cement, and its surging appetite is driving spot prices up in global markets. Western manufacturers criticize China for keeping the Yuan Renminbi抯 value artificially low, which protects China抯 competitive advantage as an exporter, but the currency peg also makes imports relatively expensive, putting margins under pressure.


Labor costs are rising, and the labor market is tight in urban areas. Although still very low by Western standards, wages of manufacturing workers are rising faster than gross domestic product due to a growing shortage of people. New factories are springing up, in the Chinese interior as well as coastal areas, faster than workers can be found and living conditions are improving in rural China, reducing the influx of migrant workers to the cities.


Price competition is intensifying. Rapid foreign as well as private domestic investment in new factories is accelerating domestic competition. As a result, Chinese manufacturers are unable to raise prices fast enough to cover increases in material and labor costs.
Improving China抯 Manufacturing Productivity

It抯 unlikely that Chinese manufacturers will take the Western automation route anytime soon, because labor costs in China are still a fraction of what they are in the West. Also, private enterprises in China lack access to the bank credit they need for capital expenditures, because infrastructure projects and state-owned manufacturing enterprises absorb the lion抯 share of investment capital and are financing these investments not from government revenues but through borrowings from state-owned banks.

In short, Chinese manufacturers cannot really afford to invest in 揳utonomation敆a pillar of conventional MES and WMS systems that transfers human intelligence to machinery and equipment, permitting one operator to oversee many machines without risk of producing defects. Moreover, autonomation is most suitable for high-volume, low-mix production, particularly when product life cycles are long. But it can be prohibitively costly in low-volume, high-mix situations梩he more so when product life cycles are short梱et these are facts of life for most industries today, especially in the automotive and high-tech sectors where China excels.

More likely, Chinese manufacturers are finding ways for workers to work smarter梚n effect, using people instead of PLCs to control machinery, equipment and deliveries. That抯 why it抯 hard to find any PLCs or automatic storage and retrieval systems (ASRS) in Chinese plants and warehouses today.

Case Study 1: Supply to Line at a Durable Consumer Goods Manufacturer

Here抯 an example. Flow racks feed high-speed production lines in many Western factories, keeping deliveries of material in synch with the pace of production by automatically sensing component material consumption as it occurs, and raising delivery orders in a WMS when replenishment becomes necessary. On the warehouse or receiving side, robotic pick-and-place equipment puts material in totes and onto conveyors to fulfill these orders. The WMS links each delivery to bar codes on the totes, which the conveyors scan during the journey and then divert each tote to the right flow rack. PLC devices control the flow racks, pick-and-place equipment, and the conveyors. A handful of workers oversee these operations, mostly using the WMS to deal with any problems that arise.

Conveyor systems feed high-speed production lines in China, too, but human workers on each end load fresh material onto conveyors and take material off the conveyors at the production line. But because the typical Chinese factory is a multi-story building梤eceiving and warehousing operations usually occupy different floors than the production lines梚t抯 often impossible for workers at one end of the conveyor to see what抯 going on at the other end. As a result, warehouse workers aren抰 aware of production line stoppages and will continue loading material indefinitely until there is no more space on the conveyor. When multiple production lines share the same conveyor system, the shortage of space may lead to critical material shortages and downtime on some production lines, even as material piles up for other production lines. Productivity dwindles for production and warehouse workers alike.

One of China抯 largest appliance and air conditioning manufacturers found an inexpensive yet effective solution to this problem that puts touch-screen or wireless devices in the hands of workers at each end of the conveyor. Production line workers record component material consumption as it occurs, in pace with production, and raise delivery orders in the WMS when replenishment becomes necessary. On the warehouse or receiving side, people load material onto conveyors according to instructions given by the WMS. This approach optimizes the use of available conveyor space and eliminates the possibility of material shortages on production lines that share the same conveyor system, while avoiding any investments in PLCs, flow racks, or pick-and-place equipment.

Case Study 2: Quality Control and Accountability at an Electronics Manufacturer

Here抯 another example. Chinese manufacturers and their Western counterparts both do quality control, but Western manufacturers also use their MES to record as-built product genealogies that link the serial or lot numbers of production units to the serial or lot numbers of important components. Usually, placer machinery or industrial robots scan bar codes for the parent and its components during final assembly, and the information is fed immediately into a computer database. The genealogy enables manufacturers to quickly pinpoint and quarantine product that may be faulty due to defective components 梐s, for example, when suppliers notify their customers to recall a specific lot or consignment梬ithout having to recall, hold and inspect every production unit.

Although they commonly note failure histories on paper, Chinese manufacturers typically do not record product genealogies. When they receive a recall notification from a supplier, they need to put all product inventories on hold and inspect every production unit, just to identify the few faulty units. Or, even worse, they need to recall product from their customers in order to inspect and identify the handful of defects. This ultimately drives up the cost of quality and diminishes productivity.

A leading Chinese maker of television sets and mobile phones won抰 be investing in industrial robots or placer machinery to build product genealogies anytime soon. All they need are a bar code label printer and a few touch-screen or wireless devices for workers at specific assembly points along the production line. They also require their suppliers or feeder production lines to put bar code labels on the components that they want to track. Assembly workers scan bar codes for the parent and its components, and the information is fed immediately into the computer database as if it came from industrial robots or placer machinery.

Case Study 3: Corrective Maintenance at a Printing Plant

Here抯 a third example. Machines run by PLC can automatically report faults and diagnostic information back to an MES, allowing people to dispatch the right corrective maintenance actions immediately. However, people run most machines in China. If a breakdown occurs, the operator has to summon a mechanic to diagnose the problem and perform corrective maintenance. A large printing plant in southern China gave touch-screen devices to the press operators, allowing them to immediately communicate fault codes to mechanics when the presses break down. This saves the mechanic from running out to the machine and back just to diagnose the problem, a savings that directly reduces press downtime. It might not seem like much, but those downtime reductions add up to a 10 percent productivity improvement year-over-year, and overall equipment effectiveness (OEE) performance that exceeds global norms.

The Need for a New Generation of MES and WMS Software in China

As the preceding examples illustrate, Chinese manufacturers can really use MES and WMS to boost productivity in their plants and warehouses, but there抯 a catch. Conventional MES and WMS applications from Western software developers were built to communicate with PLCs, and not production or warehouse workers. Chinese manufacturers require a new breed of people-friendly MES and WMS applications to improve productivity in their plants and warehouses.

Take languages, for example. PLCs use machine languages, which are border-independent. But Chinese production and warehouse workers require Simplified Chinese software on the mainland, and possibly Traditional Chinese also in Hong Kong and Taiwan. Ideally, they prefer software that uses graphics rather than text. Conventional MES and WMS applications require major re-programming just to deal with graphics and wide Chinese characters, to say nothing of the translation effort into multiple versions of the Chinese language.

Process logic requirements are different, too. Processes built for PLCs are much less complex than people-friendly processes. With people, you have to consider the many things humans will do梪nintentionally or not梩o befuddle a computer. Machines are a lot more predictable and obedient. And, no matter how complex the process, it has to appear simple and intuitive for ordinary people like factory and warehouse workers.

Conclusion: A New Market Is Emerging for MES and WMS in Mainland China

Considering how inappropriate conventional Western MES and WMS software is for the Chinese market, it抯 no wonder that very few Chinese manufacturers use it today. But the urgent need to boost productivity in China梬ithout making major investments in plant and warehouse automation梚s creating a market for people-friendly and economical MES and WMS software that few Western software developers are in position to serve today.

Ideally, Chinese manufacturers would prefer not to waste time and money developing and maintaining their own applications. Instead, most will seek off-the-shelf solutions that embody proven productivity-enhancing business practices from the West while meeting the unique requirements of Chinese manufacturers such as

Ability to define people-friendly processes, and error-proof them;


Worker-centric tasking and resource management;


Native ability to run in Simplified and Traditional Chinese;


Native ability to display graphics instead of text on the browser in a wide variety of touch-screen and wireless devices;


Affordability; easy and inexpensive to implement and support;


No requirement for investment in PLCs or expensive machinery; and


Ability to communicate with PLCs as well as people, when the need arises.
To successfully penetrate the Chinese market, commercial off-the-shelf MES and WMS vendors must build new products from scratch, or significantly re-tool their current product offerings. Chinese software developers are likely to try, but they lack the Western know-how pertaining to MES and WMS systems and the credibility that Chinese manufacturers desire. Numerous best-of-breed software developers in the West have deep MES and WMS expertise, but most of them offer legacy products and are completely unfamiliar with Chinese manufacturing needs. Only a handful of Western vendors possess the innovative technologies, proven track records and physical presence to successfully exploit the emerging MES and WMS market in Mainland China. These vendors have the opportunity to dominate what is likely to become one of the world抯 fastest-growing markets for business software.

The market for conventional industrial automation, MES and WMS applications, by contrast, will remain a comparatively small niche comprising the handful of Chinese and multinational companies that have capital-intensive operations.


注:作者Nelson Nones 非国人

请问,Toyota用的是什么WMS?WMS必然带来效率的提升吗?还是有象JIT 这样更合理的提高效率的革命性方法?
我们做WMS的人应该扪心自问,我们能为用户带来什么?

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发表于 2005-1-5 11:33 | 只看该作者
最初由 mySCM 发布
  影响WMS功能的基本要素,来源于四个方面:即,物流中心在供应链中的地位;物流中心所具备的功能;物流中心组织系统结构和作业内容;物流中心各项作业的管理办法、管理政策
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呵呵,最主要的就是物流中心在供应链中的地位了,不然上了WMS也是白搭

另外,想问问mySCM老兄,你们系统中的x-docking,有没有什么先决条件呢?或者说你们的x-docking是怎么实现的呢?

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发表于 2005-7-7 01:24 | 只看该作者
为什么说上欧麟当了?能解释的清楚一点吗?

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TO:ryu177

你好象很关心欧麟

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欧麟公司有一定知名度,所以关心呀

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发表于 2005-7-18 14:08 | 只看该作者

请教各位

请问目前国内哪个公司的WMS软件做的最好?

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发表于 2005-7-18 21:33 | 只看该作者
我认为不存在最好不最好的问题,而是针对具体情况“适合”的问题。

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