All about CRACK

omni

You know the answer, and you don't have to ask anyone else.
The fact is, if you can not keep you promise, please do not make it.
Subscribe to (ISC)2 Code of Ethics is just about to keep your own promise.

armitage

wow... chill, people, chill.  Can't we just all get along?  

IMHO, BOSON test sucks.

Fenng

最初由 insecurity 发布
[B][B]想想盗版带给我们的危害吧, 看看我们自己的软件产业是什么境况![/SIZE] [/B] [/B]

没有盗版会是什么样子，大家可以想象
不是说盗版好，但是要给大家一个时间

armitage

好像不大压韵。。。

用盗版是不好
但大家都在搞
我也想学到老
可就是钱太少

这个怎么样？?

忍者神龟

就是啊，怎么会成为crack中心呢？从哪里开始跑题了

cissp

在长远的角度来看，Crack的东西是无利于民族软件的发展的。以安全产业为例：试想某防毒软件盗版横行，该公司如何在研发上投入更多的资源？相反，某国际著名防毒软件的研发中心就设立在国内，通过在西方国家获取的利润投入研发。同样是中国人，国内的防火墙越80余种，没用一个走出国门，反倒是netscreen、checkpoint的研发骨干哪个不是中国人。IDS大致也是如此。

在另外一个角度讲：你是在作Crack还是用别人crack出来的东西。在英文名词中有3类人：hacker、cracker、script kids ，中国的hacker固然水平很高，但淹没在众多的script kids中也是可悲。真正意义上的cracker也是很少的。

最重要的是不是你是否在用crack的东西，而是你是否觉得这种行为是否正确。如果整个大环境都觉得使用盗版产品没用什么不光彩的，那中国的IT势必永远落后。

zdy77

最初由 cissp 发布
[B]我觉得不要将Scope扩大到软件业。保持本版不成为Crack的集中地就可以了，进来大家对维持CISSP的尊严的讨论令人感动，希望CISSP在国内不会像MCSE或在香港的样子。 [/B]

是否BOSON CISSP PRACTICE TEST不是软件.
是否不需要运行在WIN98  WIN2K上面.

就好像是乞丐的下半身+绅士的领带...哈哈

呵呵.我看到空中楼阁了..好漂亮啊...哈哈

omni

The debate is heated up.

Please let make myself clear:
- I am not cybercop. I am a Chinese grown up in China now live in Canada;
- I am a CISSP. I claimed to follow the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics; This means (among other things) that I do not crack software, I do not use cracked software; Also, it means I will promote IS Security, and promote CISSP as a profession;
- I do not make comment on policis, no comment on nationality, no comment on industry, no comment on history, I make no joke on CISSP issues;
- We are talking about CISSP candidates using cracked CISSP practise test software;
- As stated above, I will do my best to let people not to use cracked software; and as I am promoting CISSP as a profession, I will help CISSP candidates understand the importance of subscribe to (ISC)2 Code of Ethics;
- Everyone has the ability and has the right to make his/her own judgement on this issue. But, if a CISSP candidate has cracking activities, as a CISSP, I am obliged to speak out and to stop it - no matter it happens in North America or China;
- Nothing political, this is purely common sense: when you apply for CISSP, you will make a promise. If you can not keep your promise, DO NOT make it - do not apply for CISSP.

"我没有打算考CISSP，那么我是用软件是否老兄就没有意见了呢？"
For those of you who are not going after CISSP:
It is none of my business for whatever you would like to use. But, do you really need my help to make a judgement?
On the other hand, you do not have to get yourself involved in this 'CISSP candidates using cracked CISSP practise test' stuff, you have nothing to do with this (ISC)2 Code of Ethics.

A side note:
History has nothing to do with it. Do you realize you have to pay license when you purchase a colour TV? You may not like it, but you have to pay for the heavy license fee that the manufacturer transferred to you. I may have already stepped on somebody's toe - this is the pure fact - you are FORCED to pay, and you paid.
To whom does not have a ‘Imported/Joint Venture Manufactured’ Colour TV, I apologize for bring this up to you, this FORCED to pay stuff is none of your business.

To sum up, I think everyone come into this forum and particularly this topic has the education, knowledge and intelligence to make a good judgement, out of common sense. Sometimes because of the fact is so obvious, we just don't see it.

btw. I would love to type in Chinese, it is too slow. I have 'quanpinyin' only. To make it worse, my English spelling is really bad. Please bear with me. Thanks for reaching this far.

netbanker

do not mess it up, This is my understanding, I am studying towards cissp, of course, getting certification is my final goal, but during the study, I know so many new netwok and security stuffs and I like it. for which way you prefer to learn is another story. but as soon as u really master it, keep it in your brain. you are ok.

so, it is meaningless discuss about crack, legal issue, we all not key person that control those online materials, even bill Gate can not ban illegal win. in china. but I am pretty much sure that if China becomes stronger and more powerful, maybe those kinds of problems will be solved automatically.

Of couse, if china want to be accepted by the world, to some extent it has to obey the comman rule.

best regards,

zdy77

the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics.............